Rand Paul Thinks U.S. Will Lose Trade War

Senator Rand Paul (R-KY) publicly denounced President Trump’s tariff proposal and claimed, “the United States will lose in a trade war.”

Rand suggested, “[A] tariff is a tax, and typically Republicans, conservatives, have not been for more taxes. So, I’m against new tariffs. They’re simply a tax on the consumer.”

He also said that Trump’s tariff proposal is “the wrong thing to do. If you look at steel use in our country, there are 60 people purchasing steel for every person making steel in the country. So, there’s a lot of people who purchase steel that are going to be hurt by this. My state alone exports $20 billion worth of products, including a lot of farm and agricultural products. And if there’s a trade war, we stand to lose in a big way. And really, the United States will lose in a trade war.”

  • Jim

    So what are we to do about unfair practices against us? are we just to grin & bare-it? maybe Rand Paul & some don’t think we are being burned, what does the majority of experts think?yes no? fight or take-it?

  • Donald Johnson

    I think Trumpy boy is trying to kill America.

    • Bandit

      Where have you been the last 9 years, bamba boy raised the corporate taxes to over 45% and TRUMP just cut that tax down to less than 20 %, who was the one that was trying to kill the country, bamba boy all but forced companies to go over seas just to make ends meet, TRUMP is bringing those same companies back into the country and putting people back to work.

      • Rich

        Corporate tax should be zero. Companies don’t pay taxes, consumers do. Companies just raise prices to cover it.

        • CharlieZ

          You are absolutely right. Corporations just collect money form their customers for the government. They are just tax collectors like the IRS. All of GM’s taxes are in that Chevy

          • EC

            You make a good point. But if corporations are not taxed, then it stands to reason that they should not have any of the rights of individuals, including the ability to make political donations. You can’t have it both ways…

          • Rich

            You are right. They don’t make donations. It’s called Pay to Play in Chicago. How do you think a senator or a congressman or a government worker can become a cudzillionare with 4 0r 5 years of service Why do they spend 10 million bucks for a $100000 a year job. Glad you caught on. Remember there are a lot of outside interests besides companies. This mess is called the swamp. Maybe donations have to be limited to some dollar amount. Don’t know

        • drew

          interesting reply

        • Bandit

          Back in the 80s I had a catering business and I paid plenty in taxes, but yeah companies should not have to pay certain taxes.

      • drew

        yep…I agree..

    • Old Salt

      Oh…okay…gosh it must be true…because you said it.

    • drew

      no man………….he is rebuilding it. If you think otherwise….you are a CNN fake news watcher………..

  • Thaddeus E Hughes

    I suggest that he put his crystal ball away and take a smart pill.

  • David Smith

    Rand Paul is naïve and chicken shit ! The US is 25% of nominal global GDP.
    We can call the shots globally now, we have a finally President who has some balls!

    • EC

      Time will tell. Will you admit it if you (and Trump) are wrong?

  • Stephen Howe

    This crybaby RINO knows more about business than Trump? I don’t think so.

    • Old Salt

      You don’t know what a RINO is or you wouldn’t have made such a ridiculous statement. RINO’s are lefty progressive socialists wearing a republican campaign button [like John McCain] and Rand has been a staunch constitutional conservative for his entire career…that’s the record. Whether Rand or Trump is right, is up for grabs on monetary theory, but you show complete ignorance with the RINO crack about Paul and convince no one as a result.

      • Stephen Howe

        Any GOP member of House or Senate who opposes Trump’s agenda is a RINO…

        • Old Salt

          Like I said…you just don’t understand what RINO means, in fact, Trump himself would not agree with you because he understands the term. A RINO isn’t someone who disagrees with Trump, Trump respects different thinking…it’s someone who pretends to be a republican but really isn’t ideologically, that’s considered a RINO. It’s a simple acronym not an activity and it stands for Republican In Name Only hence RINO. You’re wrong!

          • Stephen Howe

            Trump is the most conservative president of my lifetime. RINOs pretend to be conservative, but are Obama-followers in reality. Ryan pretends to be conservative, but opposes Trump at every turn. Ryan muddies the waters with the whole “abortion bad” issue. Abortion is the least of America’s problems. Obama, Hillary, Activist federal judges, Soros, Mueller, Sessions, Comey, Pelosi, McCain, Warren, Waters, Lynch, Rice, Brennan, McMasters…surely someone can arrest, prosecute and convict at least ONE of these traitors?

          • Old Salt

            Finally…that was my only point, they “pretend” to be conservatives and it has nothing to do with anything else. And don’t worry, Mad Dog and Sessions [though the AG seems a little weak on balls] are dusting off some cells in GITMO. Hope you’re armed because there’s going to be some socialist backlash in the streets when TSHTF. Rumor has it that Podesta is earmarked for number one in the barrel, a very loyal military will be rounding up the players under national emergency executive orders.

          • toddyo1935

            I was thinking you guys were closer than the exchange.

            Here’s how I’ve been trying to understand the differences…

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/39008298f2ec0a1ab2a5037cf112d000ebfa64e340c15565c613ad6a27d644f1.jpg

        • Rebecca Quick

          I think they are just uneducated, and not very old. They can’t remember things the way us older people do. We were at GREAT country, and Trump is working his butt off to turn things around before all who remember die of old age, and young people never get to see.

    • EC

      Not all of Trump’s businesses were successful – he’s had a few failures along the way. I believe that, overall, his business sense is pretty good, but that doesn’t mean that we should just blindly follow his every decision without question or intelligent discussion. Rand Paul deserves respect more than most members of Congress for his unwavering support of the Constitution. It’s absurd to attack someone of his credibility for simply disagreeing with Trump. We need all of the Constitutional allies we can get. Otherwise, we simply turn on our own and eat them in true Democrat style.

      • drew

        intelligent comment Stephen

      • Stephen Howe

        I’ll grant you that Ryan is LESS of a RINO than McCain.

  • kcwas

    I don’t think rand paul is anything but a seat warmer and plays with democrap he seems to always be with them gee wonder who’s warming his pockets

    • Margo

      I agree!

  • Rich

    We are already losing 800,000,000 per year. Plus Some of these are statigic industries. Industrial might is what won WW2. That is why our industries are being targeted. To make us weak. They sell, we buy is not trade.

    • toddyo1935

      I remember the push toward a service economy well. No more “dirty” industries. Every kid will go to Harvard and become a weenie.

      From that came the phony definition of diversity – race, gender, sexual urge as identifying markers. We succeeded because the American system allowed for an infinitely diverse range of gifts and talents that were allowed to develop and be exploited for profit and personal and national security.

      Back to real diversity that is found in any population group. Let’s not decide to abandon the Republic that has served us well under God to exchange for a world government where only the powerful can prosper.

  • oldguy 36

    They just won’t get it. Trump knows more and has actually ACCOMPLISHED more since he became President, than these people have done in their entire POLITICAL life, as POLITICIANS. Funny: so far every business thing he’s done has worked out. Sometimes, even better than “expected”. When Obama said “this” was the new reality – the new less strong America, less wealthy America, I said that was B##$$%%@$. Besides business, look at the other areas where people/governments are co-operating. I was in Aerospace, with a secret clearance for over thirty years. We were in serious danger with our small military, planes that had to borrow parts from other planes just to fly – and fly not all that safely; look at the pilots we’ve lost in training. Thank you Obama. People may not want to admit it, but Trump is saving our LIVES. That means you out there, and your family. And we still have people who want amnesty, letting convicted criminals back out on the streets, to commit more crime, against legitimate citizens, and all the rest of that BS. And women, who don’t like what he has said about them, so they won’t vote for him. Think of something besides yourselves ladies – like oh, your kids, or maybe your job and your husbands job. Think of all the people ignoring the Constitution, our laws – they aren’t just suggestions on how to run the country. Just take a drive by the vets cemetery, to maybe adjust your perspective. I’ve never seen a population so self absorbed; wanting everything for free – health, education, etc. What is it next, free graduate school? All so you can focus on entertainment. GROW UP.

    • Janie Illingworth.

      Well said my friend! You are so right on!

  • CharlieZ

    I stand with Trump

  • Guy Smith

    I know rather little about international economics, and don’t believe Senator Rubio knows much more. Real economists seem to be remarkably silent about this, but I
    would like to hear from a few. Historically, tariffs have generally been more harmful than beneficial, but I suspect that President Trump knows what he is doing. I doubt that he could have built his financial empire if he were not rxtremely astute.

    • toddyo1935

      I think you’re right. He knows how to get attention, even though he’s been discussing and listening with his closest advisors for some time. It wasn’t just a knee jerk like the left does every time a gun goes off.

      Sit back and watch what happens.

  • Rebecca Quick

    We weren’t losing the trade game before Clinton signed NAFTA and GATT! What makes so many people think we will lose this time? Trump is making things back the way they were before Clinton messed it all up. Piece by piece.

    • drew

      atta girl Rebecca

  • oldguy 36

    A lot of things have had different results in the past. I’m certain, especially from what I’ve seen, that Trump will have a much different “application” of those things. Therefore, the result will not be the standard we hear will be such a disaster. I have been a lifetime AVID reader, as in avid. As my wife would tell you, I have “predicted” in general terms, all that Trump has accomplished. It wasn’t really hard; so much of what’s happened is just attention to the basics of everything – of which Trump is a master.

  • oldguy 36

    You can’t rely on the past to tell the outcome of what Trump is doing.

    • EC

      So you’re basically saying that history teaches us nothing? By your logic, maybe communism would be successful if we had it here, since it’s total failure in other countries doesn’t predict it’s outcome here. Besides if we could get Trump to introduce it, I’m sure he’d have a much different “application” of it. Dream on…

  • Fred

    That’s why Rand will never be president. Emasculated jackhole with no balls.

  • frank daniels

    Yes politicians hate tariffs, because they derive their campaign money from multinational lobbyists. Multinational corporations don’t care about American workers only their profits. Paying Chinese works $2 an hour for working 12hrs a day 6 days a week saves them a fortune. Americans purchasing Chinese made items brought china out from the ox drawn cart and rickshaw days. Chinese have no technology that they didn’t steal from America. They only copy, no original ideas. No trade war. Without the US they will starve. They need us not the other way round. I for one am willing to pay more for an American made item. It puts food on the table of American families.

  • Brabado

    Is it possible that Ran Paul finds himself, and RINO Jack McCain, a Hobby to keep them busy, and out of American Politics…???
    Since he can not get near the Oval Office, he has become the “Prophet of Doom”, 24/7… Really?
    Let’s find him, and RINO John McCain both, a Hobby where they can let “responsible adults” take care of the Country’s Government.

    GOD BLESS AMERICA.

    Semper fi.

    • drew

      I think just Mc Cain should get out.

  • Bill

    Rand, it’s not about a trade war, it’s about fair trade and national security! Plus what country can survive producing nothing but fiat currency and exporting jobs instead of real goods????

  • Rich

    My g grandfather was an early miller in 1860’s Minnesota. He made a ton. Story goes (newspaper) that he was paying $1.25 per day. (about 1880) He was approached to fire everyone in town and outside labor would be supplied at .75 per day ( doubling his profits) His answer was if a man wasn’t worth $1.25 per day he didn’t want them. He understood that you don’t make money by destroying your market. You always support your country and your neighbors. What does this mean? Trump also understands that you have to look out for your country and our own first. Their are differen’t types of economies. Right now we have an imbalance of $800,000,000,000. That is how much the rest of the world is taking advantage of us. This must end or we will become a third world country. This is our own fault for making bad deals. This must stop or our country and our freedom will fade into history. Time to make things right. LIVE FREE OR DIE. Go Donald

  • Cliff Lindsay

    YOU KNOW FOLKS OVER 99% OF THE Americans don’t even know what is going on. Our USA is in the process of being put down like a mad dog. What we have is the controllers want to destroy the USA as we know it and rebuild it as a One World Socialist Nation. There will be no more free enterprise, or Capitalist System as outlined in the Humanist Manifesto 1 & 2. It will be ECONOMIC CONTOL OF THE PEOPLE BY GOVERNMENT. President Trump is the only thing that stands in the way of the CFR AND THE Club of Rome. The Humanist Manifesto 1& 2 can be downloaded and if you have children or grandchildren in the public schools they teach them the devils religion of Humanism. The trade war will make more Interdependence and less Independence.

    • Old Salt

      I think more of us know about what’s happening than you think Cliff…we just don’t get the news coverage, because real news is no longer available. I believe there’s an unseen hand of protection over our republic yet.

  • milmac

    American made steel products are far superior to steel products made in foreign countries even when those countries use American imported steel. My family had stainless steel cooking utensils and flatware that actually never stained or rusted , unlike what is imported from foreign countries, such as China. In addition, the cutting knives (butcher, bread, paring, etc) actually held a sharpened edge through many cuttings, while the cutting knives nowadays have to be sharpened just about every time they are used. I am sure there are the same problems with other foreign made re-imported steel products. I had rather buy and use American made products so we adjust the consumer cost to be comparable with the foreign cost. And, by the way, foreign countries are producing products cheaply but American companies are for the most part increasing the price a thousand percent on the imports. While the product is not made of steel, an example of the American company gouging the consumer is the cost to the Chinese for making Air Jordan, $16.00 and the selling price of $250.00 to $500.00 by the American business. Are we really that stupid–just for a “designer” look/name or to impress the Jones with our “luxury goods.”