Dragging Kids Across Border Is Child Abuse

Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) who recently was on Fox Business Network made the argument that people crossing the desert and jumping the border with children to enter the United States is “essentially child abuse.”

Paul stated, “I think we ought to look at a way to try to not separate the families, but we should also understand our first priority should be to keep everybody safe. I think, children in an area where people are being detained for illegally coming across the border there is always the possibility some people detained could either be smugglers of drugs, sexual traffickers so really in all systems incarceration throughout the United States we don’t put children with adults. I understand the emotions of this I think we should look for a solution. But I don’t think everybody should say oh we’re doing this or people doing this on purpose they want to separate kids. I think people truly are concerned about the safety of the children. And how you have children mixed with adults, some adults are not their parents, and some of the adults frankly aren’t good people.”

“I think the other thing is this fits into overall immigration question we have to ask. Do we want to tell everybody in Central America, load up a kid or two, cross the desert, which is really essentially child abuse  — people die in the desert and try to come into the country. It’s not what we want. It is not what we can handle, and it is not the appropriate way. There are immigration stations, and centers where you can go knock on the door say I am applying for asylum. Frankly, we can’t have all of Central America come to the stations either. So it is a complicated bigger question than people make it out to be.”

“Some of the answers people have talked about instead of people going crazy with attacks calling the president names maybe we should think about some solutions and work together on the solution. This would require Democrats not hurling insults and swearing at a president.”

  • Izquierdo-Right

    He’s right> VIVA TRUMP>>

  • CJ

    Couldn’t agree more. Look what they have to go thru just to get here; all the way thru mexico, where they could have been stopped if the mexicans got off their butts.

    • Deborah G

      The Mexicans do NOT offer welfare or help to any other country so these people do not want to stay there. They did however screw the USA by allowing FREE PASSAGE.

      • CJ

        AMEN. girl!

    • db

      NO , ARE YOU KIDDING? THE MEXICANS ARE BEING PAID TO LET THEM GO THROUGH BY THE VATICAN AND THEY ARE NOT WHAT YOU THINK THEY ARE THERE, EITHER!

  • ABU TOM

    ABORTION IS CHILD ABUSE. Subject: RINO RATS COMMUNIST DEMOCRATS.

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/spiritofamericapartybook/2018/06/22/get-rid-of-the-rino-rats-and-communist-democrats

    HERE ARE THE 41 RINOS WHO VOTED WITH THE COMMUNIST DEMOCRATS AGAINST THE IMMIGRATION BILL.

    The bill — the more conservative option of two pieces of immigration legislation originally scheduled to be voted on this week — was defeated by a final vote of 193-231. No Democrats voted for the bill, and these 41 Republicans voted nay:
    Paul Gosar (Ariz.-4)
    Andy Biggs (Ariz.-5)
    Jeff Denham (Calif.-10)
    David, Valadao (Calif.-21)
    Steve Knight (Calif.-25)
    Dana Rohrabacher (Calif.-48)
    Mike Coffman (Colo.-6)
    Mario Diaz-Balart (Fla.-25)
    Carlos Curbelo (Fla.-26)
    Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (Fla.-27)
    Drew Ferguson (Ga.-3)
    Mike Simpson (Idaho-2)
    Peter Roksam (Ill.-6)
    Steve King (Iowa-4)
    Thomas Massie (Ky.-4)
    Justin Amash (Mich.-3)
    Fred Upton (Mich.-6)
    Erik Paulsen (Minn.-3)
    Frank LoBiando (N.J.-2)
    Tom MacArthur (N.J.-3)
    Chris Smith (N.J.-4)
    Leonard Lance (N.J.-7)
    Rodney Frelinghuysen (N.J.-11)
    Pete King (N.Y.-2)
    John Faso (N.Y.-19)
    Elise Stefanik (N.Y.-21)
    Tom Reed (N.Y.-23)
    John Katko (N.Y.-24)
    Michael Turner (Ohio-10)
    Steve Russell (Okla.-5)
    Ryan Costello (Pa.-6)
    Brian Fitzpatrick (Pa.-8)
    Bill Shuster (Pa.-9)
    Kristi Noem (S.D.-At-large)
    Louie Gohmert (Texas-1)
    Will Hurd (Texas-23)
    Mia Love (Utah-4)
    Barbara Comstock (Va.-10)
    Dan Newhouse (Wash.-4)
    Cathy McMorris Rodgers (Wash.-5)
    David Reichert (Wash.-8)
    PETE KING CAN NOT BE TRUSTED. HE IS A CHAMEALEON. SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM INTEL COMITTEE. COMMUNIST DEMOCRATS VOTE AS ONE. 41 RINO RATS VOTE AS DEMOCRATS. LOUIE GOMERT WHAT HAVE YOU DONE? PICK 6 YOU CAN LIVE WITH. GET RID OF THE REST. THE RULE SHOULD BE UNA TERMINO POR TERMITA, ONE TERM PER TERMITE.THE VOTE COULD HAVE BEEN 234 TRUMP VS 190 COMMUNISTS. RINO RATS AND COMMUNIST DEMOCRATS HAVE TO GO. THE ONLY LOBBY SHOULD BE IN A TRUMP HOTEL. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/55503202961062111bdcfb1c70ef1f4a87f01a17bcc8dd41adc7e068a1227c01.jpg
    DON’T WORRY SIS. TRUMP WON’T LET THE DEMOCRATS KILL US.

    • Robert Courtney

      I just hope most of these names vote against the more MODERATE bill next week. I have told my Rep, who voted FOR the Conservative Goodlatte Bill, that if I find out, and I will, that she voted for that pig of Ryan’s, I do have better use for my vote in November.
      And I meant it.
      If we HAVE to have an amesty bill, I probably would have grtiied mt teeth and went on on this Goodlatte Bill. But Ryan’s pig is right out. Most of the names above were sponsors for the Discharge Petition, so no surprise, there. Except Steve King.

    • db

      do you know what the bill said? I don’t. I haven’t heard a word about it from anyone!

    • Gemynygrl

      Get it straight. Paul Gosar didn’t support it because it was a shit bill. It may have been the “more conservative” of the two but he does not support DACA. He is actually one of the few Politicians that supports the law. That’s why he didn’t support it. Here is his statement. He did not side with Democrats! He is trying to force a wall to be built down here. I don’t know why the others didn’t support it. Maybe it was for the same reason. I do know why Gosar didn’t and he won’t support ANY bill where DACA is on the table. https://gosar.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=3363

  • Frederic Charles Hilnbrand

    On top of that how many of these children are not even theirs? Some of these ADULTS take them and use them to get across the boarder. They need to DNA these children and these ADULTS to make sure they belong to each other!!

    • Deborah G

      Why spend the money just deport and not let them enter period unless they have applied in their OWN country prior to arriving unasked to the border. WE simply cannot make America the dumong ground for everyone in Central America. PERIOD> Keep the kids safe by NOT allowing anyone entry except through pre-screened legal methods.

      • shamu9

        Militarize the Border, like it is in MOST Sovereign Nations! BOOT ’em OUT! Give the WELFARE Sucking Invaders “The Golden Toe”!!

    • Ron

      Right on.

  • Deborah G

    Rand is too reasonable because IF anyone thinks Democrats are “reasonable ” ot have ANY thought of working together is completely insane. Their sole focus is to drag their candidates across the finish line for POWER> That’s it they obviously KNOW the best thing for the kids is to Build that wall and stop the lure of illegal entry.

  • ConservativeMe

    WHAT EXACTLY is democrats structured platform for America besides #resist , kill and abolish all opponents and their race, gender, religious cards and what are democrats solution TO FIXING immigration problems that bush, clinton and obama crreated instead of screaming “it’s Trump’s fault” & WHY won’t democrats come to the table to HELP fix it when Trump continues to invite them to the table to help?
    WHY WON’T ANY LIBERAL ANSWER THESE SIMPLE QUESTIONS?

    • db

      they are too dumb to have an intelligent answer and their deeds are evil, so they like to hide in the darkness where no one can see them!

  • Deborah G

    In another note. these people do NOT look like refugees. ALL the women seem to have nails,hair, gold jewelry and cell phones. Not exactly paupers. Just trying to scam

    • db

      THEY ARE PROBABLY DRUG MULES AND STOLE THE KID.

    • Maggie

      That is exactly what I thought. Even the famous “little girl on Time cover” looked clean and very nicely dressed.

    • Gemynygrl

      Also notice how clean the children are like they just had a bath? I don’t care who you are in 120 heat you are going to be a mess in 10 minutes. These people supposedly crossed the desert which took weeks? How are their clothes clean? How are they not exhausted? How are they not dehydrated? None of them have water, food or dirty clothes in their bags or anywhere else. I call bullshit! I live in Arizona. I know what the weather has been like for the past month. That baby is clean.

      • Ron

        Excellent observation.

  • Dennis B Anderson

    I brought this up why not DNA test them? Well that cost money as well, and still would save tax payers money. Power preceived, is power achieved if the immigrants know we are using DNA testing you would think that would stop the flow of human trafficing.
    One thing I know is these people will push every avenue to get what they want.
    When you ask them something they dont know a damn thing. No speak e – the – english. You better start using this also to keep them out of here. We settled this arguement in James Town 1609 we speak english here not spanish. Totally shut down the border until further notice. How about a decade at least !

    • db

      they are, that is why they only allow some to stay with parents, because it is determined by dna test that they are. Otherwise they turn them back!

  • ConservativeMe

    America wants LEGAL IMMIGRANTS not child abusers….

  • peter

    A recent story about a border patrol agent seeing a mom and her small child. When the mom saw the border patrol agent she literally dropped her child on the ground and ran away from the agent. Never believe the democrats , liberals or fake news media outlets. I now can honestly call a democrat strategist a BS artist because that’s all they spew from their mouths!

  • JD Carpanzano

    This is a fellatious debate. Crossing the border is illegal, now they are criminals. The punishment is deportation, children or not. A crime is a crime. Try crossing into Mexico illegally..The Mexican government ALLOWS them passage but Mexico is a sanctuary state for those fleeing persecution i.e. they can stop there!

    • db

      YES, REMEMBER THE GUY THAT MADE A WRONG TURN AND THEY ARRESTED HIM AND KEPT HIM LIKE A DOG CHAINED TO A BED FOR MONTHS!? NO TRIAL, NO NOTHING, FINALLY GOTHIM OUT BUT THAT WAS ONE MAN. NOW THEY WANT US TO TREAT THEM LIKE HUMANS AND HAVE COMPASSION ON THEM? I DON’T THINK THEY DESERVE IT AND THEY ARE USING CHILDREN THEY COULD HAVE KIDNAPPED AS A FRONT TO GAIN ENTRY, THEY ARE PLAYING US ALL BIGTIME!

      • JD Carpanzano

        Yes I most certainly do!

  • Alan

    Send them all back, no more political or any other asylum.The word will spread and will slow down this BS. If it doesn’t, gun fire might.

  • Sue

    I can see the choice to bring a child on a harrowing journey as child abuse. But, I’d rather the children and verifiable parents just be expelled from the US. The US needs to strictly limit (and perhaps halt for awhile) all asylum of immigrants.

  • underthewire

    What is more interesting is that this so called refugees can seek asylum at embassies in Mexico. Something is not right……..very not right!

    • db

      SET UP? CAN ANYONE SAY SET UP?

  • db

    ACTUALLY, THE DRUG MULES ARE USING CHILDREN AS A SHIELD TO GET INTO THE COUNTRY, THEY NEED TO BE X-RAYED BEFORE BEING RELEASED. THE DRUGS THEY SWALLOW OR OTHERWISE, COULD CAUSE THEIR DEATH!

  • Jane Stacy

    we all know the immigration stories are bull shit we need to close the boarders and throw them all out come back legally

  • Dennis B Anderson

    Stop all immigration for 10 years enough of this! Do it now Trump trust me there will always be enough people to pick our vegatables. Get some of those dead beats out of the house, and away from watching Oprah. If you dont work you dont eat. Good – bye – good – bye – good – bye. Whatever gave you mexicans the idea we want your bastard children in the first place.

  • Dennis B Anderson

    We dont need new laws all we need to do is enforce the laws that are already on the books. If you want to change things being here illegally draws a felony charge, punishable by death. Shut down the borders for 10 years. STARTING YESTERDAY !
    Enough about your bastard children, your free lunch is over you feed them we have our own to take care of firssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssst !

  • Ron

    Rand Paul, your comments are compassionate yet mature and thoughtful. I respect you sir and am so happy you have logged in on this whole discussion. Clearly children cannot be held with adults for the reasons you have given. Just as clearly, there needs to be accountability for these illegal immigrants. Because many do not reappear for their hearings, detaining them is the only current remedy. As Trump says, however, the Dems need to work With republicans to change the law so it is more workable. This they refuse to do and instead choose to inflame this issue so as to use it as one of their 2018 campaign issues. This, like so many things politicians do, is unethical, cowardly and morally bankrupt.